Barrels as Vision Barriers

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Barrels as Vision Barriers

I ran across this on the internet. I was unaware of the incident. I am not looking for a new rule or to ban anything. I just thought I would share this with other members to open discussion. No change is necessarily necessary in my book, but would be open to any ideas of ways to thwart this type of injury occurring at our range.

Here is a video of the incident.

 

"As a lot of you may have heard, Gordon Carrell of Team Comp-Tac busted his knee up this past week at the IDPA World Championship. While shooting one of the stages, Gordon ran into a shot-up barrel and caught his knee on a shredded edge of the drum. The resulting injury is a gash from the bottom of his thigh to the bottom of his knee. He went to the ER and had seven stitches put in it. They wanted to put 17 stitches but Gordon's response was "I've never NOT finished a match. I'll just rip the other ten out tomorrow."

The next day, Gordon was bandaged up and back out on the range with the rest of the Super Squad. Gordon did finish all the remaining stages of the 2011 IDPA World Championship and still managed to win 4th place ESP Masters.

Now here comes the fun part. Gordon will still end up with one mighty fine scar and will need some better story to tell of how he got the scar. He's asking YOU to help us come up with a war story that sounds cooler than "I ran into a plastic barrel". Just leave us a comment of your idea(s) and the owner of the best story will win a free Comp-Tac hat!"Follow up: Gordon is still limping around the office and is "very aware [his] knee is there" but he's doing much better already. So far everything looks like he'll heal up nicely without any complications."

Gordon getting stitched up at the Emergency Room at the IDPA World Championship.

 

 

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ONe way to help prevent this

ONe way to help prevent this is to wear long pants. Jeans or some other heavy duty pant.

Lynn

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IMHO, while this concerns me,

IMHO, while this concerns me, I am less worried about the barrel than I am the screws that folks leave sticking out after they were fixed together for stability. Already been stuck twice.

"In England, if you commit a crime, the police don't have a gun and you don't have a gun. If you commit a crime, the police will say 'Stop, or I'll say stop again.'"
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One might also consider it an

One might also consider it an indicator that one is 'crowding' cover. Though, I also admit that screws left barrels and walls is a wee bit of a peeve.

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Barrels do get sharp edges

Barrels do get sharp edges with use. I encourage stage designers to use walls whenever possible. The light weight walls that Ty built are easy to set up and move around while constructing the stages. When everything is in perfect position, a couple 8 inch spikes holds it firmly.
It makes set up so much easier! Nice job Ty.

Mark Barr

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Some hard cover or a NT is

Some hard cover or a NT is always a good thing when using anything other than cardboard as a vision barrier. I noticed one of the new walls with about 25 holes in the side due to using it as a vision barrier at the last IDPA event.  Stapling a cardboard hard cover or NT would have saved that wall.

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As would slowing down and

As would slowing down and ensuring debilitating hits.

The ability to shoot straight is that part of national security which affects the individual more than any other. - Merritt "Red Mike" Edson; CMOH-USMC

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That is not how games are won

That is not how games are won

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Speed comes naturally - Bruce

Speed comes naturally - Bruce Lee

The ability to shoot straight is that part of national security which affects the individual more than any other. - Merritt "Red Mike" Edson; CMOH-USMC

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Back on topic! Tim, you have

Back on topic! Tim, you have a great point. At the last of the two range cleanups folks showing up were told to bring propane torches and sanders to clean up the barrels. We may need a stick/screw monitor. Care to volunteer?

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Does it come with a special

Does it come with a special shirt? If so, not sure it should say screw monitor. Anyway, putting my serious hat back on, we all need to be monitors for safety. That includes not just the ability to shout stop at any time, but also keeping an eye out for sharp objects, like those screws and nails that will get you every time. When we did the last clean up with Charles, we did take out quite a few screws from the plastic barrels and sort through the sticks as well. That said, maybe the guideline when setting up should be to avoid screwing barrels together unless really needed, in which case, taking the screws out at breakdown becomes the rule.

"In England, if you commit a crime, the police don't have a gun and you don't have a gun. If you commit a crime, the police will say 'Stop, or I'll say stop again.'"
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Lots of great points, and no

Lots of great points, and no you don't get a shirt.

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Perhaps a few pairs can be

Perhaps a few pairs can be bolted together... bottom to bottom.

The ability to shoot straight is that part of national security which affects the individual more than any other. - Merritt "Red Mike" Edson; CMOH-USMC

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Sounds like a great way to

Sounds like a great way to keep them together to me.

"Unnecessarily restrictive engagement requirements by default is the hallmark of a lazy or flat out terrible stage designer." ~ unknown

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