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Some Questions

First is about classification if you are classified in ssp as a novice are you a novice in all other sections-IE: ssr, esr,esp,cdp,etc..etc..? Or do you need to shoot the classifier for each gun division?

 

what division is my Springfield XD sub-compact supposed to be in? ssp or esp?

When I shot in May I was put in ssp then esp in June.

I'm still learnin' this so please bear with me.

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First is about classification if you are classified in ssp as a novice are you a novice in all other sections-IE: ssr, esr,esp,cdp,etc..etc..? Or do you need to shoot the classifier for each gun division?

 

what division is my Springfield XD sub-compact supposed to be in? ssp or esp?

When I shot in May I was put in ssp then esp in June.

I'm still learnin' this so please bear with me.

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1) Question: if you are classified in ssp as a novice are you a novice in all other sections?
No. You are only a novice in SSP. You are unclassified in all other classes.

2) In IDPA All XD's are ESP. This has been the subject of debate for years. We can speculate the reasons why.

My opinion. The XD is a single action gun and belongs in the single action class, ESP. I also believe that the Glock and M&P, Ruger SR9 as well as a few other striker fired guns also belong in ESP. Save the SSP class for the "full pull" double actions. Beretta 92's, Sig p226, and the like.

EDIT: It has been brought to my attention that I may be incorrect in my interpretation of the below rule: I guess we will wait for a clarification from IDPA HQ. 
This also leads me to a rule question I saw asked last weekend. Shooter asked an SO if he could cock the hammer after the buzzer goes off. The correct answer is No. Not in SSP . (it is legal in all other classes. Bad technique but still legal)

2. Stock Service Pistol Division (SSP)
page 19. 2005 rulebook
Handguns permitted for use in this division must:

A. Be semi-automatic.
B. Be double action, double action only, or safe action (when the trigger is pulled, the hammer/striker is cocked and then released.

Another technique is called "shot cocking" This is a glorified name for round dumping. Taking a pre shot in order to cock the gun into a single action condition. This type of shot should be issued an FTDR.

C 1. Competitors will not attempt to circumvent or compromise the spirit or rationale of any stage either by the use of inappropriate devices, equipment or techniques. This is the Failure To Do Right rule.

3) You may have been put in SSP because ??? I don't know. The XD is an ESP gun and probably always will be. Except in .45 where is can also be a CDP gun.(I shot my .45 XD in CDP for a year).

So If you classified the XD you can ask Bill to put in into ESP novice during signups. You will then need verify with the scorekeeper anytime before the end of the day that the changes got to her. A good time to verify with the scorekeeper is when you change sides on match day. When you go from Stage 1/2 to 3/4 stop by and verify that the changes have made it to the laptop. DO NOT go up at the end of the day and say  "do you have me in ESP"? This should be done before the scores are in.

Also don't worry about being misclassified (If you are) with IDPA HQ. Unless you are going to a major match it is not an issue. You will be classifying again before your first major match.

Ty

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Also, Charlie is running

Also, Charlie is running another classifier at the end of July. In case you wanted to go for Marksman or classify another division.

http://www.nvsa.info/?q=node/302

 

 

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I knew about Charlie doing

I knew about Charlie doing the classifier next month that is why I asked the question, to see if I needed

to do the classifier again. Never thought about getting marksman, but it never hurts to think positive.

Thanks for the info.

 

Mike

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