Still looking for speedloaders for the 12th of June

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mgroce
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Still looking for speedloaders for the 12th of June

Hello all,

I am planning on making the 12 of June ICORE match. However I have been unable to locate

speed loaders to fit an S&W 4 inch .38 special. I do not know what model the gun is for sure

so ordering won't work, I need to try some to know which speedloaders to buy.

I have some .357 speedloaders but they just don't fit.

I am going to try Sportsmans in rocklin on hwy 65 is there any other places you can think of?

Does anyone have any that might work? (so I could try them and get the right model #)

Thanks,

Mike

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If you swing the cylinder out

If you swing the cylinder out the model number is generally under the front part. Once you have the model number you should be able to find the speed loaders that will work. As soon as you know the model number post it up as someone may have some that you can try. Not all Smiths use the same loader so it's important to have the model number.

Lynn

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Safariland Comp III are by

Safariland Comp III are by far the most popular ICORE/IDPA speedloader that I am aware of. They are the fastest currently available today. I am sure that there will be some at the event to try. I say just show up ask around. What may be more difficult to share will be the holder. Ready Tactical also makes a great holder. You could always draw them from pockets but that may not be much fun. Hopefully someone with some extra gear will see this before sunday.

Below is a picture of an ICORE legal holder.

 

These holders are ICORE and IDPA legal

"If you plan to leave early, please arrive early to help set up. If you arrive late, please stay late to help take down. If you plan to arrive late and leave early, please do your shooting someplace else."

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Hello All, If the gun is a

Hello All,

If the gun is a 4" .38 Special it is most likely a K-frame (Model 10, 13, 64, 67 and many others).  Ed Vernon shoots a K-frame and he is at most matches. 

Speedloaders - Safariland Comp III's are the only way to go.  I would bet they made up 99% of the speedloaders used at the IRC.  The only ones not using Comp III's were shooting guns that they didn't make Comp III's for.

For Holders - the holders above work fine.  Both are ok for ICORE, but the Safariland is not legal for IDPA (rule book quote:  covers the full diameter and body of the speedloader)

The Ready Tactical are great holders.  You can get them from www.cpwsa.com  Bob Pardue of North Mountain makes some great holders too, he makes 2 models one will work for both IDPA and ICORE, the other is ICORE and only.

If you're only shooting ICORE the one right below is the fastest.  The North Mountain are available direct from Bob at  www.4wheelguns.com

 

mgroce
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I am going to go for both

I am going to go for both IDPA and ICORE legal for now. I still have not found the model number stamped on gun. I am going to look under the grips later tonight.  Thanks for all the input so far,

 

Mike

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have you looked here?

have you looked here?

"If you plan to leave early, please arrive early to help set up. If you arrive late, please stay late to help take down. If you plan to arrive late and leave early, please do your shooting someplace else."

mgroce
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yes Ty in the area your pic

yes Ty in the area your pic shows is

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it is there twice once on the frame right there and also on the bar that swings out.

 

And I do believe it to be a K-frame as there is a "k" stamped on the end of the cylinder and the bottom of the barrel.

Mike

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Another thing I forgot to ask

Another thing I forgot to ask is how many are needed? min/max

Mike

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You need no more than 3 for

You need no more than 3 for IDPA and 6 for ICORE. IDPA maximum round count is 18 rounds per stage. You can only have 3 on your belt plus the 6 in the gun so that is 24 rounds ready to rock and roll. In ICORE there is no max round count. 36 is a good number for max rounds plus your misses. 6 loaders gives you 36 plus 6 in the gun.

Here is a picture of Josh Lentz. Fastest speedloader guru around. He might have some "Oh S&!T"  loaders behind him.

 

Jerry on the Left has 10 moons holding 8 rounds each. 80 rounds on his belt.

I shot the IRC with 64 on my belt plus 8 in the gun.

"If you plan to leave early, please arrive early to help set up. If you arrive late, please stay late to help take down. If you plan to arrive late and leave early, please do your shooting someplace else."

mgroce
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OH Boy! I see what you mean

OH Boy!

I see what you mean about it may not be fun if you have to put speedloaders in your pockets. (I better have lots of pockets;))

I was under the assumption of three like IDPA.

So that brings up another question, how many rounds do you bring to a one day match like this Sunday?

For ICORE do you have to use the thumb break on the holster?  I'm having trouble getting it to snap closed when it is on the belt it is new and a tight fit over the hammer.

Mike

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IDPA states: K. If there

IDPA states:

K. If there are retention devices on the holster they must

be used. You may not temporarily disable the retention

devices for the purpose of shooting a match. Holsters

may be permanently modified.

You are free to permanently remove any retention device. If it is there it then must be used.

For ICORE I am not aware of any rule that requires you to use available retention devices.

Round count. for IDPA is limited at 18 rounds per stage. If all 4 stages are maxed out (72) and you bring 100 rounds you should still be fine if you have a re-shoot due to stage or SO malfunction. I have yet to see 4- 18 round stages at NVSA but you never know.

For ICORE I have never needed more than 150. I have also never counted. Bring 150 to ICORE and you are good to go.

Holsters with straps over the hammer are neither popular in IDPA or ICORE. They are however totally legal to have. In a game of speed and accuracy too much retention is not ideal. If it is how you carry then that may be how you want to practice, its perfectly fine then. There is no hurry re-holstering. It will never be on the clock. Always take your time holstering a loaded gun into a holster. As retention straps become limp they can get lodged into the trigger guard and activate the trigger while holstering. ALWAYS take great care when holstering.

"If you plan to leave early, please arrive early to help set up. If you arrive late, please stay late to help take down. If you plan to arrive late and leave early, please do your shooting someplace else."

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